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Yep, i have got to the point now where i can shrug too much weight for my grip, my hands always give in firstt, so i'll be using my straps from now on, i find the dumbells give the best range of motion, as you dont have the restriction of the bar hooking ya nuts or arse.
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We alternate dumb bell and cable flies weekly because they are different and we want to get the benefits of both. The cable exerts resistance across the body at an angle dependant to that of the hight of the arm and i think it hits the medial deltoid better, the dumbell exerts resistance perpendicular...
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We don't really use those anymore, a demonstration of the technique more than anyhting, we used to get there at peak so they were the only one available.
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